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01 January 1970, 1:00 AM › Go to Reply Form
kingsthorne50
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
I would very much appreciate help & advice please.
I have been having excellent annual eye tests at SpecSavers for many years. They often have to take two field tests as the tests usually show a couple of small missing areas that the optician accepts.
Just over twelve months ago, I was tested by what appeared to be a young newly qualified optician who said I had problems and wrote to my GP/hospital! The hospital took pressure tests every two hours during one day, once the pressure in one eye was 13, all other reading were 12. I am told up to 18 is acceptable.
The consultant said 'I have glaucoma but the pressure is low so no treatment is necessary! More tests will be carried out in 6 months'.
Six months have passed and the tests show very little change; a couple of readings are a digit or two better & a couple worse. So they say there is no deterioration
As my medical records now show 'Glaucoma' I shall have to declare it to the DVLA & insurance company.
I have read your posting on the forum with horror! I am 70 years old next February so I am an oldie! It appears from your experiences that I have a one off chance to take an Estermann binocular field test at a location determined by the DVLA, having no experience in using this machine and hopefully passing the test.
I use varifocal glasses to drive; are these the best to use for the test or should I buy new straight forward driving glasses.
Can I arrange a private Estermann binocular field test before the DVLA test to sort out the best approach?
Thanks for reading about my problem. Hope you can help.
Bob.
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val
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
Hello there-I am another oldie at 75. Well to start at the beginning I failed the DVLA test10 years ago. After having my cateracts removed and new lenses inserted(NHS)
I used these as a reason to request another field test. I had been off the road for 7 years at this time. To my surprise I was asked to make an appointment with a named optician whom I had never met before. I did not ask for a trial run on whatever machine was being used. After the test he showed me the results there and then and said they were encouraging - DVLA make the final decision of course. I had a couple of misses at the extreme top right and top left of the picture which seem to be acceptable. Within a couple of days DVLA sent me my new licence!

My pressures are checked every year at hospital and are about the same as yours. I had a trab in both eyes 15 years ago. With regard to which glasses to wear - (I have both reading and distance pairs)- because I am shortsighted the optician insisted I took the test without glasses. Now when I failed the test all those years ago the operative told me tp wear my glasses-I've often wondered whether this made the difference between pass and fail. As for the test itself this seemed easier than the one I took which was at the local hospital. You will be able to use both eyes -when I failed each eye was tested separately. So the test itself seemed to take much less time.

A quick word on Specsavers. Because there was a branch near to my workplace I used them for many years. On my first visit to a high street optician following retirement my glaucoma was spotted. I'd better not say any more.

The reason for this long posting is to urge you not to give up hope - by all means ask the optician for a trial run if this will give you confidence. The best of luck to you - I hope you will soon be telling us that you passed.
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Lavengro
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 140
Hello, I was ask to take a visual field test for the DVLA in 2009, the optomotrist let me use both eyes to take the test without glasses and choose the best of three effforts to sent to the DVLA. My driving licence was renewed for one year because of a different medication that I am required to take.
Good Luck, Lavengro.
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kingsthorne50
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
Thanks Val & Lavengromium, that helps a lot.
Registering glaucoma with the DVLA and keeping your licence, did this change your car insurance premium, and did the insurance company need more information or tests?
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val
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
I never declared it on my insuramce- I considered it was not a disability or any sort of illness or affliction that might possibly cause problems when driving. I regard it as having passed an eyesight test - which you have to do when taking a driving test. I thought I fulfilled my obligations by informing DVLA and being assessed. Hope I'm not wrong!
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val
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
Interesting article [url=http://www.optical.org/goc/filemanager/root/site_assets/news/driving_leaflet_-_pdf_ngaw08.pdf]here[/url]
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val
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
Sorry the link didn't work -try copy and paste.
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Lavengro
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 140
Hi, I informed my insurance who said passing the DVLA test was sufficent for them there was no increase in the premium.
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kingsthorne50
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
Hello Val & Lavengro,
Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.
Val, On my insurance it asks if I have anything that should be reported to the DVLA. I think that your only problem is if you are unlucky and have an accident your insurance company could check your medical record; if it states that you have glaucoma they could say that you haven't informed them. I agree that you have satisfied the DVLA and that should be acceptable for you to be insured to drive.
There is a letter from the hospital on my medical records, at my doctors, that clearly states that I have gluacoma, but it is untreatable as the pressures are low. I shall see how I go with the DVLA, if ok, I shall advise my car insurance company.
Regards Bob
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LUCY
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 30
Hi Bob

I have just had by assessment test for driving. The dvla sent me to a different optician to my own. I was very nervous has not one before. My optician ran through a practice test with me a few days before. I was put at my ease. It is not as in depth as the field tests at the hospital and you can wear your glasses and use both eyes. I was glad as my one eye is very damaged I only have 5% of my optic nerve that is not damaged. Anyway I passed with 100% the optician did not know how often the dvla will recall me. It was a relief to know before had what the test involves. I was much less stressed on the actual one.

Lucy
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Sightline
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 129
Hello Lucy,

Once the DVLA have deemed that it is ok for you to carry on driving, the only thing that changes is your licence will be a 3 year licence. This means that every three years you will have to resit the test with the DVLA.

Concerning you car insurance it is always a good idea to advise them. They may say as long as your GP and DVLA know they are ok but others like to be told. I always advise people to tell their insurance companies anyway. Your premium is not affected and you know that if you did need to claim they couldn't turn round and say they will not pay out because they hadn't been informed about your glaucoma!
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val
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
Well done Lucy !
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kingsthorne50
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 1
Thanks everyone for your help, support & advice, much appreciated.
Bob
17 July 2012, 16:36 PM › Go to Reply Form
brianh
Joined: 17/07/2012
Posts: 3
i took a second visual field test today and missed 11 points on the extreme left which is my weaker eye,my first test a month ago i only missed 4 points in the same area how worried should i be that i will fail please

17 July 2012, 23:25 PM › Go to Reply Form
Royh
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 56
Difficult to say brian - I myself have had a wide variety of results ranging from 98% down to 70% so at least to me the field test is not infallible. I am still driving.having failed the test 3 times and passed at a later test.Overall it depends I think whether the misses are separate individual misses or whether they are clustered. In the latter case I think you are allowed some scope. Also was your test a hospital test  an opticians test or an official DVLA test?
16 August 2012, 13:28 PM › Go to Reply Form
raymond
Joined: 16/08/2012
Posts: 1
hi i have just had a cataract operation (6 weeks ago) i have just been for a check up at the hospital and a Doctor who performed the operation sent me for a field test and also a driving visual field test which i have never had before, she said that the result on my left eye was not good and i should inform the DVLA, I normally see a consultant privately and he sends me for a field test once a year we he said has always been okay, so as you can imagine i was devestated to be told this by the hospital doctor can Iask my regular consultant for another test to be done? I go to see him at the end of August, i would be very grateful for any advise.
16 August 2012, 21:25 PM › Go to Reply Form
Royh
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 56
Hello Raymond -The DVLA field test can only be performed by an optician who has been approved by DVLA. If you inform DVLA that you have been asked to notify them of your problem they will let you know which approved optician is nearest to you and will pay for the test. You will find on this site many contributors who say the DVLA test is easier than the hospital one so don't panic about your hospital results. Good luck!
02 January 2013, 15:36 PM › Go to Reply Form
DilysM
Joined: 02/01/2013
Posts: 1
The DVLA revoked my driving licence after I failed a visual fields test conducted by a local optician on a new machine specially designed to fail people. This surprised the NHS Specialist in Ophthalmology at my local hospital. He examined my retinas and conducted an Estermann visual fields test (on his machine) which I passed with flying colours. I took the first test wearing vari-focal lenses. After I failed I had a good think about it and went to Specsavers for distance glasses. I wore the new distance glasses for the second test which I passed. I have reapplied for my driving licence but the DVLA want me to travel to another NHS eye department which is a 46 mile round trip (murder without a car). Is my theory about varifocal lenses being the problem valid? The DVLA should warn people if this is correct. I cannot talk to any one who has medical knowledge at the DVLA.
28 February 2013, 14:51 PM › Go to Reply Form
dethadol
Joined: 28/02/2013
Posts: 2
I have just had a FOV test. I have to wear spectacles for driving and normally wear vari-focals. The DVLA said in the letter they sent me requesting the test that I had to take any spectacles I normally wore to the optician, I assumed that this meant that I would have to wear the spectacles for the test. However, the optician told me that I should take the test without my spectacles as he said this would give a better result. Thankfully I passed the test.
01 June 2013, 1:55 AM › Go to Reply Form
worriedj
Joined: 01/06/2013
Posts: 2
After diagnosis with Glaucoma, my consultant said that I should have no problem in passing the DVLA visual field test. 

DVLA sent me an appointment for the visual fields test at an approved optician. 

However, the equipment was not in a separate closed room but in a cubical. 
Adjacent to one side of the cubical was an optician's desk where customers were discussing their glasses. 
I found this noise a distraction and in fact the optician with me asked half way through the first test for them to be quiet.

I am concerned that I may have missed seeing some of the light flashes because of the distraction.

I was allowed to take another test but by then I had lost concentration and the second test was invalid.

The optician refused to discuss the first test and handed me a letter which states that DVLA does not permit any comments on the test or provide me with a copy of the test result.

Does the DVLA specify that equipment should be in a darkened and closed room to avoid such distractions?

I am obviously very worried that I may have failed this test. 

Please advise.
04 June 2013, 16:45 PM › Go to Reply Form
Sightline
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 129

Dear Worriedj

Having a field test is stressful at the best of times so having a test for the DVLA with lots of distractions is really not acceptable.

When a person attends a field test for the DVLA they can have up to three field tests on the same day so another test should have been offered to you.

You will obviously now have to wait for the results of the field test from the DVLA.  Hopefully the results will be acceptable. If not you can have another field test but you will have to arrange this a pay for yourself. Please be aware that the result may take a while to be sent to you. We have been told by others who have taken the test that it can take as long as 2-3 months to come back with a result.

Sightline

19 June 2013, 14:17 PM › Go to Reply Form
worriedj
Joined: 01/06/2013
Posts: 2
YAY! :-))))) I passed the field test.  3 year licence in today's post.
20 June 2013, 7:38 AM › Go to Reply Form
ubermensch
Joined: 20/06/2013
Posts: 1
I flunked my DL test and did the same binocular field test this seriously sucks.Luckily I drive in residential areas with less police or traffic. Mine is more permanent
20 June 2013, 13:30 PM › Go to Reply Form
Sightline
Joined: 01/01/2011
Posts: 129

Ubermensch,

We obviously don't know if you are based in the UK or not but wherever you live if you are driving after failing all the relevant safety tests it is very irresponsible and against the law.  Not only that but you are putting yourself and others at risk. Think about this. If you had a loved one be it an adult or child and they were hit or killed by someone who had visual impairment who felt that it was OK to drive because they drive in a residential areas with less police or traffic how would you feel?. Please seriously think carefully before getting behind the wheel of your car.

Sightline

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